Looking for a Accountability Partner to study Web Development
Hi everyone,
I'd love to find one or more persons to do 'live co-learning' on a call together. Both of us could be working on something completely different! It's just so you have someone to talk to while you are learning.
I'm also interested in Pair Programming on projects.
My current level is that I got the foundations of HTML/CSS/JS down. I completed the Foundations course at The Odin Project. Two of my sample projects would be: Weather App, Calculator.
Preferably we would both work on The Odin Project or another resource that we agree upon. OR we just try to code our own project together.
I'm also looking at a paid bootcamp, but for me the real value of those bootcamps is the pair programming / pair learning that I am missing when I study by myself.
So I thought I'd try asking here and on reddit, if anyone wanted to team up!
Are you interested in the Odin full stack Ruby on Rails or JavaScript?
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I’d also recommend finding a mentor https://commoncog.com/blog/be-good-to-your-mentors/
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There’s no question that bootcamps accelerate your learning. But, you can find equivalent resources at low or no cost—without taking on thousands of dollars in debt.
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Anyway, best of luck on your programming journey 😄
Hi! I'm doing The Odin Project Full-stack Javascript course. Yes, a mentor would be nice. Especially since I don't really want to be employed as a Web Developer, I'd rather join someone working independently for customers or starting a business. I thought a bootcamp could bring me to a point where I can team up with someone to work independently. I don't have money problems. What I do have though, is the wish to make remote programming or working in general less lonely by being on a call with someone else or pair programming. I'd like to have such a social element.
Oh good! I was going to recommend JavaScript (TypeScript) over the Ruby on Rails course. React too. Are you aiming for full-stack development?
Ahh, that’s a nice goal. After doing freelance / contract work for a few years, I’m now trying to start my own business / SaaS / web app for designers.
Honestly, I don’t think so. I think they usually get people up to the junior developer level. But, you need to either work in industry or your own projects afterwards to reach the level you’re aiming at. Simply put, “You will never be a mid or senior software developer after 12 weeks.” And the thing is, you will need to be at a higher level if you want to tackle complex projects or co-found your own business. I say that having both taken a bootcamp and having taught several bootcamps over the years. I absolutely love teaching, but I don’t see it as a viable career path.
Agreed. I thoroughly enjoyed pair programming with my former computer science college suitemate. In fact, I’m currently visiting him for a month of productive programming and fun!
Always a great place to be.
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Anyway, good luck on your programming journey! I don’t know enough about your previous experience or future goals to give more specific advice.
Thank you! Yes, I'd like to aim for full-stack development at first - to see both sides, but at a later stage, I'd really like to specialize and get better at one thing only. I also heard that bootcamp brings you up to junior level at most. Couldn't I join a more senior developer in his freelance activities after the bootcamp? That person would also be a great mentor, or not? Alternatively I could team up with someone who also attended the bootcamp and work on our own projects for some time. It might sound like I really want to attend a bootcamp, but that's not the case. I just want to accelerate my learning and I feel like investing a bit of money would be fine. If I can find a good and consistent study partner, I might pass on the bootcamp.
Sounds like a good plan. Specialize in one, know enough to be dangerous in the other haha
Um, no? Unless you’re okay with a low hourly rate, e.g. $35/hr. Don’t get me wrong, junior devs are great. But something like freelancing usually means you can work autonomously to solve problems without help, efficiently build features and manage scope, and have the experience needed to meet project objectives in a timely manner.
Investing in a junior dev requires a lot of time, training, and patience. It means that the senior dev must spend time mentoring that could otherwise go to the product or business. This scenario makes sense at companies. Many of the freelancers I see are either solo, or work in a small experienced team.
I doubt it. Most of those people are there to find a job afterwards, right?
It sounds like you really want to attend a bootcamp 😂
Bootcamps are nice because they have the mentorship, learning materials, and community all in one place.
But most bootcamps kinda offer your hopes and dreams, right? Become this #programmer and find your financial freedom or do what you love or whatever. It’s very easy to see it through rosy tinted glasses. You want all their promises to be true.
There’s no question that bootcamps accelerate your learning. But, you can find equivalent resources at low or no cost—without costing thousands of dollars.
If money is no object, then sure, why not? But that’s not the case for most people.
Up to you in the end. I prefer a mentor and study partner. Either way, you need invest months into learning programming and then practice, practice, practice. No way around it.
So long as you’re aware.
Still applies.
Yes a mentor and a study partner would be awesome. I have some more questions for you, mind talking somewhere else?
Sure, why not—sent you an email