17
11 Comments

Selling his product for $65k and reinvesting it into the next product

Nicolas Jeanne built an app, launched it, and sold it three months later. Now, he's living off those earnings while he reinvests every penny of his new product's revenue.

I caught up with him to talk about the acquisition, reinvesting, and living cheap despite being able to live comfortably. 👇

Walking the (cheap) walk

💰 "Lots of people feel entitled to things. But having a comfortable lifestyle is not something you 'deserve'. If you need money, move to a cheap country, get a cheap room, and eat cheap food until you have the finances to get comfortable." —Nicolas

Nicolas doesn't just talk the talk. He moved to Bali to save money. He pays $500/mo for a room and coworking combined. And his meals average around 4 bucks a pop.

By my way of thinking, he's got plenty of money for a comfortable life already, but he's got big goals and thinks living comfortably would only get in the way.

We'll talk about goals in a minute. Let's take a look at where he is now.

The numbers

He's working full-time on an app called Talknotes, but this isn't his first rodeo. He's got a small portfolio bringing in cash.

  • Talknotes revenue: $1700/mo
  • Other app revenue: ~$1000/mo
  • Business bank account: $100k

His business account is pretty flush because he keeps all of his savings there — he keeps barely anything in his personal account. And, of course, the acquisition didn't hurt. He lives off of that $100k and reinvests all of his revenue back into his company.

💰 "I believe someone’s income is equal to the value they create in the world." —Nicolas

Here are his business expenses... well, at least some of them:

He doesn't really keep track of his expenses, so he said he's probably missing a few.

Regardless, though, the lion's share of his costs come from marketing experiments. He's constantly testing things to see what works. His latest tests have ranged from pitting direct sales against free signups to adding a live demo on the homepage to testing headlines, etc.

He's also playing around with SEO and ads — and as you can see above, he's investing a considerable portion of his revenue into the latter.

Here are his personal expenses:

  • Room + coworking: $500/mo
  • Food: $500/mo
  • Misc: $100/mo

He doesn't really go out, unless it's to meet up with other indie hackers. And his only hobbies are travel and scuba diving, which are expensive and time-consuming, so he mostly avoids them.

His preference is to just work hard now while he has the energy, then enjoy the finer things in life later when he has the money.


Enjoying this format? Subscribe to get future peeks behind the curtain and learn how other indie hackers are thinking about money.


Living the cheap life

No one needs to be given a reason to go to Bali... It's Bali.

But Nicolas had a couple anyway. First and foremost, it's cheap. And as we've already covered, so is he.

He's currently got a sweet deal where he has a place to stay, good internet, and coworking for $500/mo. As he says, "Good luck finding that in Europe or the US."

Not only is it cheap, but it's super efficient. He just walks downstairs to his shared office and gets to work. Sure, he'd like a private office, but...

💰 "Lower your standards, if you can divide your cost of living by two you just won an extra year to work on your project. If you don’t have a family to take care of, it’s a good time to take risks." —Nicolas

The second reason is that he does his best work there. In France, where he's from, he says the weather is awful half the year, and it affects his productivity. He prefers to be where the sun is out all year long.

Indie hacker weddings

So as Nicolas tells it, he doesn't do much else, other than work. But he did take a vacation this year and he says it was "300% worth it".

He went to Korea for the wedding of fellow indie hacker, Marc Louvion. Nicolas had just come out of a big "shipping rush" so he thought this would help to cool him off. And it did.

He said he probably spent about $2000 total for 10 days and, when he got back to Bali, he was energized and ready to get to work.

Finding an exit

I mentioned earlier that he sold his app.

He had a doozy of a Product Hunt launch that made him $20k within 3 months. He put the product on Acquire.com and voila: $65,000 showed up in his bank account.

It's the reason that he could be living comfortably. But like I said, he's got more pressing goals than comfort — he's looking for a bigger exit.

Invest in your business, not someone else's business

💰 "Until I make a good amount of money, I'd rather focus on creating value and making money." —Nicolas

What's a "good amount of money"? His goal is to sell a company for $5M. Then he wants to invest that and live off the interest, which he believes will be roughly $10k/mo.

Until he hits that goal, he has no interest in investing.

Living abroad, he says he'd have to figure out taxes and lots of red tape. He'd also have to figure out how to invest in the first place, as he doesn't know much about it yet and he always makes a point of understanding a thing before taking action — particularly with his money.

And that would be time spent on something other than his business. No thanks.

Plus, keeping everything liquid means that he can be very flexible and reinvest in his business.

Your VC is your boss

So Nicolas will happily take money at an exit. But what about funding?

Not so much.

💰 "VC funding is selling your liberty for money, so it’s no different than having a job. The moment you report to someone other than your customers, you’re an employee. So, no. Not interested." —Nicolas


You can find Nicolas on his personal blog and X. Or check out his latest app, Talknotes.com — he just bought the .com and he's excited about it.

Please note that the above are opinions. This is meant for informational purposes only. It is not intended to be financial advice.

And if you'd like to be featured as a guest in a future interview for this series, let me know in the comments!

  1. 3

    Investing isn't that hard if you play the long term game, i.e. put it in a ETF like the S&P 500 and you don't even have to think about it.

    You don't need to worry about taxes either until you sell and make a profit. That way you'll at least make up for inflation, because if you keep all your money in cash you're literally losing it.

    Also the earlier you invest, the better, because it will compound over time.

    1. 1

      Yes, that's the plan! I have no idea how to get started but I plan on doing so when I have good amount :)

      I don't believe in the whole "compound effect" thing unless you've got a couple millions to put there (else the returns are too smalls), but better than leaving it on the bank haha

    2. 1

      These are great points, thanks for weighing in!

  2. 3

    What is the name of the app he sold for $65k? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

  3. 2

    Really good, it gave me some confidence.

    1. 1

      Glad it was useful!

  4. 2

    Great stuff, an inspiring story Nico!

    1. 1

      Thanks! 😄

  5. 1

    James, thanks for sharing Nicolas Jeanne's intriguing journey and approach to entrepreneurship. Nicolas's story is a testament to the unconventional and focused path he's chosen. Here are a few thoughts on his experiences:

    Living Frugally for Long-Term Gain:

    Nicolas's decision to live in Bali and keep his expenses low demonstrates a disciplined commitment to his long-term goals. By minimizing living costs, he can reinvest more into his business, ultimately aiming for a significant exit.
    Focus on Value Creation:

    Nicolas's perspective on income being equal to the value one creates is a refreshing take. It aligns with the idea that success in entrepreneurship comes from solving real problems and providing value to customers.
    Reinvesting Profits into the Business:

    His choice to reinvest every penny of his new product's revenue shows a dedication to the growth and success of his ventures. It's a strategic decision to maximize the potential of his current business rather than seeking comfort.
    Prioritizing Independence over VC Funding:

    Nicolas's aversion to VC funding is interesting. His belief that it compromises liberty aligns with a desire for independence and control over his business direction. It's a perspective that values autonomy over external financial support.
    Setting Ambitious Exit Goals:

    Nicolas's goal of selling a company for $5 million and then living off the interest is ambitious but clearly defined. This approach underscores a deliberate and calculated path toward financial freedom.
    Flexible and Liquid Assets:

    By keeping his funds liquid, Nicolas maintains flexibility to reinvest in his business and adapt to changing circumstances. It reflects a strategic choice to prioritize agility and control over tying up assets in long-term investments.
    Learning Before Investing:

    Nicolas's reluctance to invest until he has a good understanding of the financial landscape is a prudent approach. It shows a commitment to making informed decisions and a preference for focusing on his business expertise.
    Avoiding VC Dependency:

    Nicolas's comparison of VC funding to selling one's liberty emphasizes his dedication to maintaining control and autonomy in his entrepreneurial journey. This viewpoint reflects a commitment to building a business on his terms.
    In summary, Nicolas Jeanne's story is a compelling example of an entrepreneur who prioritizes value creation, independence, and long-term vision. His unconventional lifestyle and financial decisions underscore a commitment to his business goals. It's a reminder that success in entrepreneurship often requires unique approaches and a steadfast focus on the end game. Thanks again for sharing this insightful story!

  6. 1

    Nice work, investing in the next product is key for success

Trending on Indie Hackers
How I Launched My AI Startup with a Warm Email List and Zero Marketing Budget? 31 comments Here's how we got our first 200 users 28 comments What you can learn from Marc Lou 20 comments Reaching $100k MRR Organically in 12 months 13 comments Software Developers Can Build Beautiful Software 13 comments Worst Hire - my lessons 11 comments