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Telegram's CEO suspects Apple is intentionally crippling web apps

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    I recently read a post here about how Google and Amazon are stifling competition and innovation (and indie hackers). This shit is out of control.

    What do you do when the companies that we're trying to regulate are far more powerful than the governing bodies that are meant to regulate them? These corporations seem to be above the law now. And if they do lose a lawsuit and face some type of regulation, it's always just a slap on the wrist — a slap on the wrist that they plan and budget for so that they can keep breaking the law.

    In summary, F FAANG. Well, maybe not Netflix. They're still pretty cool in my book.

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      I was thinking of the same article.

      These companies literally do whatever they want because the potential fines or penalties or settlements are so far removed and so insignificant that they don't really deter them from this type of behavior. Costs of these types are simply baked into the insane profits they enjoy.

      Three companies alone —Amazon, Apple, Google— control such a VAST amount of power in the United States' economy, politics and society. It's wild. Reign this shit in.

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    Imagine a world where you could/would download Safari on an Android device.

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    I've read the link he includes to other developers' complaints that Apple's Safari is killing the web, and it seems clear that the features Safari has not implemented are generally not dangerous - the clear majority are widely accepted standards. I don't imply they're perfect, and I think it's important that leading companies like Apple define a standard, but this looks like a move that benefits Apple only, at the expense of stifled innovation...

    https://httptoolkit.tech/blog/safari-is-killing-the-web/

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      I don't know - I think their point about "they're only ignoring bad features" is a good point. Just because they don't have a 100% bug-free browser, doesn't mean they can't aspire and aim to achieve it. If so, keeping problematic features out of their space is understandable.

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        True, plus, emphasis on the use of the word "suspect" - the article says:

        "We suspect that Apple may be intentionally crippling its web apps to force its users to download more native apps where Apple is able to charge its 30% commission."

        It does look like they have good reason to suspect though if the CMA holds the same opinion.

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    Nah… why do people always think corporations are out to screw people? Most of them time they got enough shit around they barely holding it together…

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    Apple? The American corporation that agreed to pay 0.5B$ settlement for intentionally slowing down old devices in the Batterygate scandal? This Apple? No way

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    I mean, their track record supports it.

    Safari is the last browser to support Web Push notifications. They've also been lagging on other "cutting edge" features as well.

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    I suspect their suspicion is correct. For a long time you couldn't web site shortcuts to home screen, seems like they finally allowed that.

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