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Now it's time to stop writing in Wordpress's Gutenberg editor

WordPress Gutenberg Editor has one of the worst writing experience
Gutenberg is not a WYSIWYG editor
TLDR; Use Google Docs for writing your Blog Posts.

It has its own styles that have nothing to do with the appearance of the site. The site’s theme should have separately specific

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    I appreciate people building cool products, but I can not understand the hate on the Block Editor (Gutenberg) anymore. Sure, early versions were trash, but a lot has improved and will improve in the future.

    I'm writing all my articles in GB these days, and I even switched to FSE now.
    For me, the fact that you don't have access to thousands of blocks (for creating complex tables, just to give an example) is a no-go.

    If I compare the possibility of GB and Google Docs, the only real benefit I'm getting in Google Docs is a great collaboration tool for the document, but besides that, I'm having a hard time getting the benefit.

    Anyway, WP is a huge market, and I'm sure you will get to a solid user base with that!

    Cheers,
    Patrick

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      Hi Patrick,

      Yes, I understand your point of view. For a team of content writers, Collaboration is really required. Those teams love writing in Google Docs only. My tool docswrite.com try to solve this problem.

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    Was never a fan of Gutenberg. I've no clue why did they replace the default TinyMCE; when it did a fantastic job. I still enable it on my wordpress sites.

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      Added your comment to my blog.

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      You are correct. I will add your comment in my blog post.

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    I couldn't agree more! The Gutenberg editor is a huge pain to use and it's time to move on.

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    I would say, if anyone has been writing to this date on Gutenberg, it’s probably good to keep at it as it’s been getting a lot better lately.

    Sure it has many pain points, but for example one of the more uglier bugs/features, the broken multiline text selection across paragraphs just got fixed in WP 6.0, making it decently comparable to “cloud word processors”.

    Nerds can also copy paste markdown into the editor out of the box and see it converted into proper block types for some time now.

    Mostly writing in Emacs org-mode by personal preference. Gets always a bit messy to paste near finished writing to Gutenberg, but doing final edits there has gotten bearable.

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      Understood. How do you collaborate on Gutenberg?

      Or let's say you outsource some of your blog posts, do u invite them to your WordPress?

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        For a generic case where that would be a common pattern, start out with the vanilla "Contributor" level users that can write/edit posts but not publish. Then find editorial workflow plugins to match the needs to get more control, depending how fancy you need it to be. Surely the whole WP could be used as a plain presentation layer when there's dedicated editorial systems in place, similar to connecting ERP with WooCommerce, but there's always overhead with integrations and extra systems.

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    I usually type in Google Docs and then paste/edit in Gutenberg.

    Not a fan of Gutenberg - however, Gutenberg's ability to add HTML code and Javascript is pretty awesome. I can insert Subscription Boxes/ Interactive Javascript Content without developing an entire page.

    Wish WordPress/Gutenberg supported Markdown. Markdown is goto standard for all bloggers.

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      Google Docs is really good if we all want to produce good content.
      If you use https://docswrite.com, then you can automatically push all your Google Docs and Custom HTML to your WordPress without doing copy-pasting.

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    I like Gutenberg. The blocks concept is the future. The implementation is not as slick as in Notion, but it might get there eventually. Imagine Notion with a TinyMCE editor! It would never have become that popular and even loved.

    To edit something as a "page" like in Word is an inferior concept. I always messed up the formatting. With blocks you can easily move elements around without messing with your styles, and it is semantically much cleaner.

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      Actually, for a blog post, people require very few things which can be achieved using Google Docs.

      You need Headers, Normal Text, Lists, Images, Links and embeds. All these are possible if you use Google Docs + DocsWrite.com

      The blog where I posted this article is made using docswrite.com only.

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    Agree that Gutenberg is a POS, don't agree with the choice of Google Docs. I mean, if you love it for blogging, I won't shit in your muesli.

    But if you are actively searching for an alternative, I dissuade from Google Docs; it is made for paged documents and has a ton of formatting options that your blogging engine probably can't support. You will hit edge cases that are going to be frustrating.

    I won't recommend anything specific because that depends so much on your needs, your platform, your blogging process and whatever, but I can generally recommend Markdown and Markdown editors. They are made for the job of easily writing formatted text and do support HTML injection if and when you need something more complex.

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      Markdown is more technical. Markdown is good for us (coders) not a marketing/content guy.

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    One of the first things I do when setting up a wordpress site is to disable the Gutenberg editor

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      Same here. For anyone who focuses more on their content will obviously disable Gutenberg.

      Let me know what you think about my startup https://docswrite.com

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        Nice, looks like a great tool :) I'm not using Wordpress for any projects at the moment but I'll try it out next time I do! How's it going so far?

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          If you are not a fan of WordPress, then you can create a blog from https://docswrite.com in just a couple of seconds and even host it in a custom domain or in a subroute

          Here is a customer blog: https://www.metrics.to/blog

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    Hey Sandeep, just a note that you should always write it as "WordPress" (capital P). The folks in the WP industry sorta frown on "Wordpress"... I like your product!

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      Thank you. ⚡️I will never write Wordpress. Thank you for your suggestion

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    It's hit or miss. I think the more plugins you have installed, the worse it is. There are several writing apps you can use that publish directly into WP that are worth looking into so you're out of the editor itself.

    For my personal blog, I've used write.as ... I enjoy the writing experience.

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      I think Google Docs is the best writing platform for anyone to write their blogs. docswrite.com can publish the GDocs to WP. Let me know what you think

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    I read many articles talking about WordPress Going through a lot of problems and most bloggers are looking for an alternative, I think when coding a website from scratch is better than WordPress

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      docswrite.com makes it easy for anyone creating a no-code blog from Google Docs.

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        Looks cool, I see it's your product. Anywhere you can see the available themes?

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            Also, live previews of the themes would be best. So as to see exactly how it looks, and to click into the individual posts to get a feel for how those appear.

            I tried to find some help docs but looks like those aren't built out yet. I'd recommend getting those done :)

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              Nice idea. I will make some demo sites and put it inside iframes. Then anyone can browse and get a feel.

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            Nice, do all the themes have Docswrite.com branding on them?

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              You can remove it if you are on Startup or Business plan.

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                Cool, put that in your pricing table. People will want to know and that's a good way to nudge them towards those plans

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                  Makes sense. I really need to work on my marketing pages actually. The last two months were more focused on building the core product. Docswrite can do many things, I need to make it easily understandable for my users. Thank you for this suggestion.

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                    Happy to help.

                    Another question... one benefit to using WordPress is that you own all the data. Is it possible to export all your posts in case someone wants to not use Docswrite anymore? If not, you should make that possible. People want to own their writing.

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                      If you use DocsWrite, you own all the data eventually from the beginning. All your blog posts stay in Google Docs only. There is nothing to export.

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