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I went from idea to payment in four days

I’ve worked on startups for ten years now, many projects lived and died in different sizes and stages. Some ideas never became more than a marketing page with a waiting list, some projects were funded startups that I helped co-found.

Some projects never got real traction, some never got into the black, and some never made a dime.

Over the years, I’ve studied various validation techniques, and came to the realization that payment is validation. If someone gives you actual money for your thing, you’re onto something. A lot of people giving you actual money for your thing means your idea probably has legs.

Last month, I was invited to a networking luncheon, and it was a fairly normal one with business owners, and a speaker, in a fancy building downtown and all that. I learned that the networking organization was $350 a month. Too rich for my blood right now.

But it made me think about how people really value what they pay for.

I had been in an accountability group where we stated our goals on Mondays, and talked about our progress a time or two during the week, then on Friday said if we hit our goals or not. I loved the idea of this group but it slowly dwindled in activity, and one week I was the only one stating and updating my goals. That was a free group. And it was dead.

So those two ideas merged, and I tweeted out my idea: a PAID accountability group. The same thing as the free one, but people had to pay to be in it. Because people value what they pay for, right?

It was an idea worth exploring, so I tweeted it out on a Thursday and I had several people say they were interested in a paid accountability group. Paying for it meant commitment, and these founders thought being more likely to hit their goals was worth the payment and commitment.

So I talked to everyone interested. Most guys were into a chat room of some sort, while one guy wanted video chat twice a week. I’m a recovered IRC addict, so a chat room is way more my speed, and I want the group to be tailored for me too, so we settled on that.

Then I slapped together what I needed:

  • Started a Slack
  • Set up a page on yep.so for a quick landing page with checkout buttons that I could send out
  • Set up Stripe for it

I talked more to the prospects that were interested over the weekend, and I had some maybes and some guys who said they would probably go for it.

I settled on $50/month for the group. Enough that it was “skin in the game”, but not crazy expensive.

That Monday, two founders signed up for $50 a month! And one founder wanted to commit to 3 months, so he paid $150 that day!

Amazing. After spending months or even years on startups before until they got their first payment, to go from idea to payment in just a few days was wild.

Granted, it’s not a software startup so I didn’t have to build anything, I just used tools available to build what I needed to provide the service. But the service was wanted, and people were willing to pay for it.

Since then, it’s been fantastic to see us in the group setting goals and hitting goals and helping each other out.

If you have an idea, get feedback on it as soon as possible, try to validate it however you can as soon as possible (a marketing site, an invoice, a wizard of oz site, a crude MVP, whatever works), talk to people, and go for it if there’s real demand, and you have people with their wallet out.

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    The customer will always tell you the truth with their credit card ✊

    I enjoyed reading this. Thanks for sharing the details!

    Best of luck 🍀

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    That 's super impressive, validation bring great values, and senses of solution

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    Recently, I made a thought that anything except payments is not validation. I have a waitlist and a couple of enrollments, but when I launch, only a few of them try our product.

    When potential users view the landing page, they may want to try the product for that moment but end up losing interest when the product launched.

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      Yeah, I’ve quit worrying about building waiting lists because such a small percentage care when you launch. It’s better to talk to a ton of people and make a list who you can talk to more when you have the app ready.

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        ^ Exactly, when you actually have a product at hand is when the real job of getting users start. In that process now actually!

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    Great! When you build something valuable than money, people will give out all their money just to get that valuable piece. Thanks for sharing this @vacord

    I am new here and nice to meet you!

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    Absolutely, a paid group for $50 seems to have been a brilliant decision. The commitment that comes with paying for membership often brings about a higher level of engagement, determination, and value exchange among members. It's a win-win situation where everyone is invested in each other's success.

    Thanks for sharing this vacord!

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    Can I ask, how is the idea going now? Have you had your first session, or weekly update?

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      Oh yeah! We've been active for about a month now. The group has 5 active members now, it's a good little group. I'm about to go post my goals for the week.

      I don't always hit my goals still (as things often pop up, or go sideway #startuplife) but it does really help me, because I feel more pressure in a good way to make sure I get done what I said I will get done. It also makes goal setting feel a lot more intentional.

      Open to new members if anyone is interested.

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        Really really cool! The reason I'm asking is that we're direct competitors tbh xD
        After I read your post I wanted to implement something similar to my platform, as my platform is targetting self-improvement with a social-angle. Will try to get users to join my exclusive, serious, goal-setters, and will update you!

        Keep up the good work, love it!

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    That's so true. People value time more when they put the money on the table. When you said you talked to your prospects, was it from your connections over the years?

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      It was really just my twitter audience, ones that had responded to the tweets about the idea.

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        That's awesome! How long it took for your to grow audience on Twitter?

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          I started with this twitter account like 2.5 years ago when I started my project https://saasydb.com

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    Nice approach. Given your experience on startups I would love to know, on regards of validating with payments, how would you go about it if the product is a software that you actually need to build?

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      That's a huge question. Check out the article I wrote here about how I validated the idea for my main project: https://www.reddit.com/r/SaaS/comments/170li4z/how_im_using_twitter_dms_to_validate_saas_ideas/

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    If anyone wants to see what the simple sign up page looks like: https://yep.so/p/startup-accountability-group

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      I like the visuals! How did you design them?

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        yep.so automatically generated them! based on the copy I gave. Pretty cool. I think it used Midjourney, but I'm not sure.

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    that's really impressive! I think a few years ago stuff like that was impossible (or at least way harder to achieve)

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      Yeah, I've done this so long, it was definitely a lot harder to do things 10 years ago, or at least more time consuming.

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